Harry Turner was my 3rd Great Grandfather. He was a master baker in Caversham, Oxfordshire – at one point employed by Huntley & Palmer Biscuits across the bridge in Reading. In the early years of his marriage to Louisa Smith, he was victualler of the Tudor Arms Pub on Greyfriar’s Road in Reading St. Lawrence.
1. Henry “Harry” TURNER: born 1 Jun 1848 in Reading St Giles, Berkshire; died of tuberculosis on 7 Nov 1903 in Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire.
2. Charles TURNER: baptized 4 Jul 1819 in Caversham, Oxfordshire; married 6 Sep 1845 in Thatcham, Berkshire; died 31 Aug 1901 in Caversham. Charles was a baker, with his own shop on Prospect Street. In the early days he was also a fly proprietor.
3. Ellen BROWN: baptized 20 Jul 1823 in Reading St Mary, Berkshire; died 22 Aug 1905 in Kidmore, Henley, Oxfordshire.
Children of Charles Turner and Ellen Brown were:
Charles TURNER,b. 19 July 1846 in Caversham, m. Caroline Louisa MARLOW in Caversham on 8 December 1875. Charles was also a baker.
1. Henry “Harry” TURNER
Ellen Louisa TURNER, b. 6 August 1850 in Reading, d. of pleurisy 29 March 1965 in Caversham.
Anne Matilda TURNER,b. 29 January 1854 in Caversham; m. John Smithers ALLWRIGHT in Caversham on 19 February 1879.
4. John TURNER: baptized at St. Peter’s 23 Oct 1782 in Caversham; married 21 Jan 1813 in Reading St Giles, Berkshire; died 2 Jul 1856 in Caversham. John was a carpenter in his 20s and later a baker in Emmer Green, Caversham.
5. Mary WATSON: baptized 2 Oct 1791 in Swallowfield, Berkshire; died 15 Dec 1866 in Emmer Green, Caversham.
Children of John Turner and Mary Watson were all baptized in Caversham:
Mary Ann TURNER, b. 17 April 1814. Never married, but had a daughter Ellen.
John TURNER, b. 23 October 1782, d. 2 Jul 1856 in Caversham; m. Lydia HARPER 21 January 1813 in Reading St. Giles. John was a baker in Surley Run, Caversham.
Marina TURNER, b. 18 January 1818, d. in Caversham September 1891; m. Thomas STOCKBRIDGE in Caversham on 3 April 1836.
2 Charles TURNER
Alfred TURNER, b. 20 May 1821, d. in Caversham on 26 January 1879; m. Ann WHALIN in Reading on 19 March 1845. Alfred was a baker in the 40s and 50s and later became a cordwainer/shoemaker. By 1871 he was a boot seller.
Matilda TURNER, b. 26 January 1823, d. in Melbourne, Australia, on 17 August 1853; m. William Crook GALE in Cricklade, Wiltshire, in 1852. Matilda was a school mistress in Caversham. She and William emigrated to Australia, to find gold, in 1852. She died a few months after giving birth, having contracted dysentary on the ship.
Louisa TURNER, b. 7 March 1824; m. John STEPHENS in Caversham 14 November 1843.
Caroline TURNER, b. 14 May 1826, d. in Caversham June 1893, an “imbecile;” m. Edward GALE before 1861.
Penelope TURNER, b. 1 July 1827, d. in Camberwell, Surrey, June 1883; m. Jenkin THOMAS October 1853.
Lucy TURNER, b. 12 June 1831, d. in Hackney, London, April 1886; m. William James MOSS in Reading on 2 March 1867.
Emily TURNER, b. 9 December 1932, d. in Caversham March 1913; m. David COX in Caversham on 16 September 1965.
8. William TURNER: born around 1742**, possibly baptized in Caversham on 9 June 1742; married 25 Sep 1769 in Caversham; died 18 Sep 1824 in Caversham.
9. Anne WELLS: baptized 10 Feb 1748/9 in Caversham.
Children of William Turner and Anne Wells were all baptized in Caversham:
William TURNER, b. 21 December 1769, d. in Caversham on 13 December 1821; m. Elizabeth AMBROSE in Shinfield, Berkshire, August 1794. William was a carpenter
Sarah TURNER, b. 24 August 1771, d. in Caversham on 3 Jul 1842. Never married.
Thomas TURNER, b. 28 September 1773, d. in Caversham on 31 January 1847; m. Martha DELL in Caversham on 2 October 1798. Thomas was a carpenter in Surley Run.
Richard TURNER, b. 11 August 1776, d. in Caversham on 18 February 1827; m. first Martha_____ around 1800, second Elizabeth_____ around 1805. Richard was a carpenter.
Hannah TURNER, b. 17 April 1780, d. in Caversham on 12 May 1868; m. William STOCKBRIDGE in Caversham on 28 August 1800. Hannah’s son Thomas married Marina Turner.
4 John TURNER
James TURNER, b. 1 September 1786, d. young in Caversham on 29 October 1809.
16. (Speculative) Richard TURNER: married 7 Apr 1742 in Caversham; died 2 Feb 1800 in Caversham.
17. (Speculative) Mary STEVENS: born 15 Nov 1721 in Caversham.
Children of Richard Turner and Mary Stevens were baptized in Caversham:
8 William TURNER
Mary TURNER, b. 6 January 1743/44
Elizabeth TURNER, b. 13 December 1745
Sarah TURNER, b. 30 June 1748, d. at age 7 in Caversham on 10 February 1756
John TURNER, b. 27 September 1750, d. 21 June 1751.
Hannah TURNER, b. 5 August 1753.
**According to William’s burial record in the St Peter’s parish register, he was 82 years old when he died in September 1824, which would put his birth in 1742. There were two Turner men producing children in Caversham in the mid 18th century: Richard, who married Mary Stevens on 7 April 1742; and John Turner, who married Hannah Richard on 11 December 1739. Richard and Mary baptized their first child, a son William, at St Peter’s of 9 June 1742, making him a very good candidate for being the William from our line. The fact that William named one of his sons Richard adds weight to the theory, but unfortunately there is no proof beyond that. One other possibility is the William Turner who was born in Tilehurst Berks, a village just four miles from Caversham. That William was the first born son of William and Mary (nee Moreby) Turner, and he was baptized at St Michael’s, the parish church, on 22 April 1742. William doesn’t appear again in the Tilehurst register, suggesting he married and died somewhere else. Given Tilehurst’s proximity to the town our Turners lived in for generations, it’s tempting to imagine a link, but I haven’t found any definitive evidentiary documentation which proves it.
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